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    [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 11:01

    Types of bans

    There are two types of bans, Congressional band and Delegate bans

    Delegate bans

    The delegate has the right to ban any nation. If he oversteps his power he can be impeached. He cannot ban a congressman without congressional approval. Neither congress or the supreme court can interfere.

    Congressional bans

    Congress may ban anyone they want with a 3/4ths vote. They cannot ban a member of the delegates cabinet without delegate approval. The delegate must abide by the congressional ban. The supreme court cannot interfere.

    The Supreme Courts role

    A nation can appeal their ban directly to the supreme court. The SC can overturn the ban with a unanimous vote.

    Reverse Grandfather Clause

    Any nations banned by the delegate or the congress before the overhaul are still banned. The VD is tasked with updating this list.


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by RWA on Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 11:03

    You will all start yelling for me posting but I object to the Supreme Court portion. The job of the SC is to keep the other powers in check. This law inhibits its core duty.


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 11:03

    How so? They are keeping the other powers in check. They just can't repeal bans.


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by RWA on Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 11:08

    "They will oversee the actions of the other two branches and ensure their actions are lawful. "

    If either branch unlawful bans a nation by violating their Rights (see Rights of Member Nations) it is the duty of the Supreme Court to overturn the ban. Additionally the Supreme Court is already granted the power to overturn bans if the banned nation appeals.


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 11:17

    Well it won't be if this passes.


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by RWA on Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 11:18

    Constitutional law supersedes Congressional law.


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 11:20

    Not anymore


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Guest on Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 22:28

    Nay

    Im going to agree with RWA, Supreme Court should be able to repeal bans if they are unconstitutional
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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 22:37

    Bans can't be unconstitutional. Nothing in the constitution limits banning power.


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Guest on Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 12:03

    While RWA is correct that Constitutional law supersedes Statutory Law, I'm going to vote Aye. If the Court wants to overturn it so be it.
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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 19:55

    Can we pass this so I can ban Ing


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by RWA on Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 20:01

    Take out the Supreme Court part and I will lend my support. Its the only part I object to.


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Guest on Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 20:44

    wait, why Ing, im off for a few hours and im lost again, what happened?
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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:05

    RWA wrote:Take out the Supreme Court part and I will lend my support. Its the only part I object to.


    Perheaps theres some kind of middle ground.


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by RWA on Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:08

    Anti Neo Nazis wrote:
    RWA wrote:Take out the Supreme Court part and I will lend my support. Its the only part I object to.


    Perheaps theres some kind of middle ground.

    Alright. SC can only overrule a ban with a unanimous 3 Judge ruling, rather then the regular 2. Better?


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Guest on Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:11

    I would support that
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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:12

    That works.


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:13

    BUT. The banned nation must apeal to get a SC vote.


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by RWA on Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:14

    Yes. Maybe I wasn't clear before but that is what I had intended. I hadn't wanted the Supreme Court to review every ban case automatically.


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:16

    I'll make the changes.


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:18

    Aye


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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Guest on Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:20

    Aye

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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Guest on Fri 26 Jun 2009 - 12:37

    Aye

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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Guest on Fri 26 Jun 2009 - 17:16

    Aye
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    Re: [010] Banning Amendment

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Fri 26 Jun 2009 - 17:49

    This passes with 80% of the vote. It it now up to the people for a vote.


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