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    Post by Anti Neo Nazis Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 11:01

    Types of bans

    There are two types of bans, Congressional band and Delegate bans

    Delegate bans

    The delegate has the right to ban any nation. If he oversteps his power he can be impeached. He cannot ban a congressman without congressional approval. Neither congress or the supreme court can interfere.

    Congressional bans

    Congress may ban anyone they want with a 3/4ths vote. They cannot ban a member of the delegates cabinet without delegate approval. The delegate must abide by the congressional ban. The supreme court cannot interfere.

    The Supreme Courts role

    A nation can appeal their ban directly to the supreme court. The SC can overturn the ban with a unanimous vote.

    Reverse Grandfather Clause

    Any nations banned by the delegate or the congress before the overhaul are still banned. The VD is tasked with updating this list.


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    Post by RWA Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 11:03

    You will all start yelling for me posting but I object to the Supreme Court portion. The job of the SC is to keep the other powers in check. This law inhibits its core duty.
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    Post by Anti Neo Nazis Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 11:03

    How so? They are keeping the other powers in check. They just can't repeal bans.
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    Post by RWA Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 11:08

    "They will oversee the actions of the other two branches and ensure their actions are lawful. "

    If either branch unlawful bans a nation by violating their Rights (see Rights of Member Nations) it is the duty of the Supreme Court to overturn the ban. Additionally the Supreme Court is already granted the power to overturn bans if the banned nation appeals.
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    Post by Anti Neo Nazis Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 11:17

    Well it won't be if this passes.
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    Post by RWA Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 11:18

    Constitutional law supersedes Congressional law.
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    Post by Anti Neo Nazis Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 11:20

    Not anymore
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    Post by Guest Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 22:28

    Nay

    Im going to agree with RWA, Supreme Court should be able to repeal bans if they are unconstitutional
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    Post by Anti Neo Nazis Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 22:37

    Bans can't be unconstitutional. Nothing in the constitution limits banning power.
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    Post by Guest Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 12:03

    While RWA is correct that Constitutional law supersedes Statutory Law, I'm going to vote Aye. If the Court wants to overturn it so be it.
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    Post by Anti Neo Nazis Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 19:55

    Can we pass this so I can ban Ing
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    Post by RWA Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 20:01

    Take out the Supreme Court part and I will lend my support. Its the only part I object to.
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    Post by Guest Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 20:44

    wait, why Ing, im off for a few hours and im lost again, what happened?
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    Post by Anti Neo Nazis Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:05

    RWA wrote:Take out the Supreme Court part and I will lend my support. Its the only part I object to.


    Perheaps theres some kind of middle ground.
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    Post by RWA Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:08

    Anti Neo Nazis wrote:
    RWA wrote:Take out the Supreme Court part and I will lend my support. Its the only part I object to.


    Perheaps theres some kind of middle ground.

    Alright. SC can only overrule a ban with a unanimous 3 Judge ruling, rather then the regular 2. Better?
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    Post by Guest Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:11

    I would support that
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    Post by Anti Neo Nazis Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:12

    That works.
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    Post by Anti Neo Nazis Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:13

    BUT. The banned nation must apeal to get a SC vote.
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    Post by RWA Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:14

    Yes. Maybe I wasn't clear before but that is what I had intended. I hadn't wanted the Supreme Court to review every ban case automatically.
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    Post by Anti Neo Nazis Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:16

    I'll make the changes.
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    Post by Anti Neo Nazis Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:18

    Aye
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    Post by Guest Thu 25 Jun 2009 - 21:20

    Aye
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    Post by Guest Fri 26 Jun 2009 - 12:37

    Aye
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    Post by Guest Fri 26 Jun 2009 - 17:16

    Aye
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    Post by Anti Neo Nazis Fri 26 Jun 2009 - 17:49

    This passes with 80% of the vote. It it now up to the people for a vote.

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