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    RWA Draft v2

    Post by RWA on Thu 5 Aug 2010 - 18:32

    The Preamble
    We
    the nations of The United States, in the interests of forming a more
    perfect region, based on the virtues of a vibrant and interactive online
    community of Nation States establish this Constitution for The United
    States.

    Article I -
    The Legislative Branch
    Section 1: The Legislature
    All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of
    the United States, which shall consist of The Senate and The Assembly.

    Section 2: The Assembly

    The Assembly will consist of every respective citizen of The United States.

    Clause A:

    The Assembly will have the authority to draft any law, regulation,
    amendment, or order to govern the region that does not unduly inhibit
    the constitutional authority directed to the other branches or the
    nations of the region.

    Clause B:
    Such drafts, after the majority approval of at least 51% [See Article IV, Section 1: Standing Orders] of the bodies members, then go to the Senate for further review. [See Section 3, Clause B]

    Clause C:

    The Assembly will also be given the authority of starting all charges
    of impeachment (of elected officials) or treason, they may also call for
    a criminal case against a non-elected official in the government, to be
    tried by the [insert court name] all under the majority vote of at
    least 51% of the bodies members.

    Section 2: The Senate
    The
    Senate will be comprised of a select number of elected members. The
    number of seats will be relative to the number of Citizens, which for
    starting purposes shall be set to 5 Citizens to 1 Senate Seat. The
    timing of elections, as well as the ratio of citizens to seats shall be
    governed by a Senate Standing Order (see Article IV, Section 1: Standing
    Orders) However, elections must begin by the 7th day of this
    Constitutions passing.

    Clause A: The Senate will have the
    authority to draft and make law any, law, regulation, amendment, or
    order to govern the region that does not unduly inhibit
    the constitutional authority directed to the other branches or the
    nations of the region.

    Clause B:
    In order for this legislation to pass, a majority vote is required,
    relative to the number of Senate Seats, unless a member specifically
    abstains from voting. In order to become law, the Consuls signature is
    required and in the case of constitutional Amendments a 3/4ths vote, as
    well as a majority vote in the Assembly. Drafts from The Assembly may be
    altered in any fashion, however The Assembly with a 3/4ths vote may
    block the move of the legislation to the Consul and demand a committee
    to be formed. (see Article IV, Section 1: Standing Orders) This
    committee must then adjust the legislation so that both bodies approve.

    Clause C:
    The Senate will handle all trials of impeachment or treason, expect in
    the case of one of its own members - in this case the [insert court
    name] will run the trial. Standard voting rules apply.

    Clause D:
    Appointments of [insert court name] [insert judge title] will also be
    confirmed by the Senate, by standard vote, as well as any appointments
    to a Consul or legislative created position or office within the
    Executive.

    Section 3: Legislative Heads
    The Assembly will be
    lead by the Speaker of The Assembly and The Senate by the President of
    The Senate. Each will be elected at the start of a term according to the
    standard vote rule. Each can be removed in the same fashion. They will
    help keep order in both bodies and operate them per the Standing Orders.

    Article II: The Executive Branch
    Section 1:
    The Consul
    The
    Executive Branch will be lead by the Consul and all Powers of the
    Executive as outlined in Article II, Section 2 will be his or his
    deputies.
    Section 2: Powers of the Executive
    The
    Consul of The United States shall be the commander and chief as well as
    the formal head of state. An election must begin by the 7th day after
    the ratification of this document. Elections will be governed by
    Standing Orders.

    Clause A:The Executive Branch shall be
    responsible for recruitment, maintaining foreign embassies (both on our
    forum and foreign forums), running elections, maintaining citizenship
    rolls, running the military and handling WA policy.

    Clause B:
    The
    Consul may also issue Executive Orders, which may only govern matters
    in which the Executive controls. Such Orders may be declared
    unconstitutional by the [insert court name] or declared conflicting with
    current standing legislative law by the [insert court name] or standard
    vote of both The Assembly and Senate.

    Clause C:
    Additionally
    the position of WA Delegate will fall under Executive Authority. This
    official position will fall under general appointment rules and will be
    responsible for assisting in WA policy as directed by the Consul. The
    Consul may also appoint nations to assist in carrying out his duties per
    Standing Orders & Executive Orders.

    Article III: The Judicial Branch
    Section 1: The [insert court name]
    All Judicial Powers herein granted shall be vested in a panel of nations, the [insert court name] of the United States.

    Section 2: Appointment & Seats
    The
    number of seats on the court will be set by the Senate, relative to the
    census conducted by the Executive. The number of seats must always be
    odd, and for the purposes of the start up of the region - will be set to
    three. Two will hold the title Tribune and one the title of Chief
    Tribune. All will serve a life-term, or until resignation. In order to
    be appointed the Consul must select them and the Senate approve. To
    remove a Justice a Consul may ask The Assembly to begin removal
    proceedings, with the Senate having final say.

    Section 3: Powers of the Judiciary
    The
    [insert court name] will have the final authority on matters of the
    Constitution and criminal matters. (They may review Senate decisions on
    Treason at the request of the Consul or nation on trial and with a
    unanimous decision overturn) Standing Orders will govern the day to day
    operation of the court.

    Section 4: Activation Clause
    Due to
    the undo need of such an organization directly at the "founding" of a
    region, this Court will remain inactive until September the 1st, 2010.
    However, a vote of The Assembly, The Senate and an Executive Order from
    the Consul can decrease the deadline, or if deemed necessary delay it.

    Article IV: Matters of Governance

    Section 1: Standing Orders
    Each
    branch of Government is expected to maintain at LEAST one constant
    Standing Order list. This list will have details on how to conduct the
    day to day operation of the various aspects of our government. Standing
    Orders are determined by the heads of each branch, Consul for the
    Executive, Chief Tribune for the Judiciary and the Speaker of The
    Assembly and the President of the Senate for the Legislature.

    Section 2: Citizenship
    The
    original citizens of the region will consist of the list created during
    the 7 day period prior to August 1st, 2010. The future of Citizenship
    however, will lay with the future legislature.

    Section 3: The Legion
    The
    military of the United States will be known as The Legion. The military
    will maintain the sovereignty and regional security of the region and
    her allies.

    Section: Amendments
    Realizing the imperfection of
    any document, Amendments to the Constitution can be made in the manner
    described in Article I, Section 2: Clause B.


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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by RWA on Thu 5 Aug 2010 - 18:32

    This is just the old version reposted. Still need to update it.


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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by Guest on Thu 5 Aug 2010 - 19:16

    We need a BA name for the court.
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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by Topid on Sun 8 Aug 2010 - 1:22

    Anything going on out there?
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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by GraySoap on Sun 8 Aug 2010 - 2:18

    It takes a very long time to read things in Old Entish... so it'll be a while before I have any comments. I guess I should wait for the new version too...

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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by Impermeables on Sun 8 Aug 2010 - 9:52

    lol damn this about as long as the United States constitution.
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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by Right Wing Politics on Sun 8 Aug 2010 - 13:29

    Read the US constitution Razz its a lot longer.
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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by Zanannia on Sun 8 Aug 2010 - 14:45

    Well, besides all the amendments, yeah, this one is pretty long....
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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by Topid on Sun 8 Aug 2010 - 22:00

    Seven articles of the RL constitution: 4,486 words. (Without amendments and stuff... Just the actual original constitution)

    RWA's: 1,238 words.

    So not near as long.
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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Sun 8 Aug 2010 - 22:33

    So did RWA die or something?


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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by Topid on Sun 8 Aug 2010 - 22:51

    He logged in an hour ago. Probably only has a couple minutes though?

    How major are these changes RWA? Razz
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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Mon 9 Aug 2010 - 0:59

    If this shit isn't done by the end of the week then this whole plan is fucked.


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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by Topid on Mon 9 Aug 2010 - 1:40

    Well I admit the original timeline was that the elections would be over a week ago today. RWA, if there aren't any major changes let's just vote on this version.
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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by GraySoap on Mon 9 Aug 2010 - 4:02

    We should propose a minimalist constitution, anyone? Simple straight forward rules and system that is streamlined. If we make it easy to get involved, it should be more active. At the same time we don't want to dumb it down to such a level that it is no fun for those already involved... I would volunteer but anything that I'd propose would be shot down quicker than a clay pigeon. Too late as of now anyway...

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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by Impermeables on Mon 9 Aug 2010 - 9:49

    I agree with you, GraySoap, one reason why I never got involved with the government part of the region is that it was so dry and long and difficult to read.
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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by RWA on Mon 9 Aug 2010 - 12:16

    I have not felt like going through and finding what I need to change. Frankly, I was only going to change it slightly to make everyone beside Gray and Brea happier.

    And how is this not minimalist? It covers basic functions and leaves everything else to Congress.

    Certain things are missing however, war is the only thing I can think of off hand.


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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Mon 9 Aug 2010 - 13:09

    Compared to documents of the past this one is pretty straight forward. Yeah the language looks complicated but the basics and only the basics are covered.


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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by RWA on Mon 9 Aug 2010 - 14:13

    Yez.

    And Zan make that sig smaller, or I'ma delete.


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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by Zanannia on Mon 9 Aug 2010 - 14:26

    I would, but I can't fix it, the settings page is messed up. It will only let me add to my siggy, it won't let me delete it. I tried to explain this in the Forum Desk section, but the thread was locked...
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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by Right Wing Politics on Mon 9 Aug 2010 - 15:22

    This is about as simple as it can get and still function well. But yes can we please vote on it already.
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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by RWA on Mon 9 Aug 2010 - 15:47

    The issue had been solved, I deleted your old one. You do realize that you just go to profile, signature and highlight the current text and delete, add new stuff and click the save button?

    In regards to voting, its up to you guys if you want to vote. I can only say that some minor adjustments would be best but I frankly don't feel like it.


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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by GraySoap on Mon 9 Aug 2010 - 15:51

    I don't know, why don't we merge the Assembly and the Senate into a single all representing legislature, that'd help a bit. Furthermore, are we ever going to name [insert court here]? Or should we just remove the court and give the assembly the power to vote on if something is unconstitutional, rather than arbitrarily allowing a few members to decide so. As for the problems of mob rule, we should disallow parties.
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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by RWA on Mon 9 Aug 2010 - 16:12

    A single house legislature is what we used in the past and the following occurred:

    As an elected group = became elitist
    As everyone = became inactive

    With some variance as to which does what and the expectation of new members over time both issues from the above will be less of an issue.

    As for a court, separation of powers is a generally held principle and something like that I wouldn't trust with brand new members to the region.

    And your point about mob rule, we have never had parties and frankly I think we could use them. Things often get too boring around here.


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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by Topid on Mon 9 Aug 2010 - 17:22

    Weeelll... Since none of us even know what these minor changes are, or have any knowledge of when you will 'feel like it' I think we should just vote on this and go. There's no sense in deciding to wait an unknown amount of time for something that is apparently minor.

    I still like Tribunal for the court.
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    Re: RWA Draft v2

    Post by Right Wing Politics on Mon 9 Aug 2010 - 17:36

    I'm with Topid. Let's vote, I'll begin with a big fat AYE.

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