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    Topid Draft

    Post by Topid on Sat 31 Jul 2010 - 3:02

    Important to note I think when RWA finishes his draft we can compare our two drafts as well as any one else's draft, and make a final one out of part of each.

    Preamble:
    The nations of The United States in order to form a more active region, defend the sovereignty of regions around the world, create a haven of freedom and democracy within NationStates, hereby establish the constitution of The United States.

    Legislative:
    I. The region's Legislature shall be referred to as congress.
    II. Congressmen/women shall be elected once per month.
    III. Congress shall have one seat for every 10 citizens with a minimum of 3 members.
    IV. The congress may create any regulation, declaration, or order so long as it is in line with the constitution and other laws of the region with a majority vote of congress. It may also impeach any public official, including another congress member with a majority vote.
    V. The president must sign all acts of congress, but the body may put legislation into effect without being signed with a three fourths vote.
    a) The president's signature is not required for amendments to the constitution or impeachments.
    VI. The body shall keep a document known as the Standing Orders of the Congress which shall outline the specific procedures of the body, and shall be approved and amended by a majority vote of the members of Congress.

    The Executive
    I. The executive branch shall consist of the President of The Untied States and the cabinet.
    II. The President of The United States shall be the commander and chief as well as the formal head of state. There will be Presidential elections every two months.
    III. The Executive branch shall be responsible for recruitment, maintaining foreign embassies, running elections, maintaining citizenship rolls, and running the military;
    IV. The President may make executive orders which go into immediate effect, but must be approved or disapproved by congress. Disapproved orders are rendered null and void.
    V. The President may create cabinet positions by executive order and appoint cabinet members. Each cabinet member shall serve until his cabinet position is removed by the president, or until a new cabinet secretary is approved by congress.
    1. A permanent cabinet position shall be the Delegate of The United States, whom shall be the region's WA Delegate.

    The Judicial
    I. The Judicial Branch shall be known as the supreme court.
    II. The supreme court will issue punishments for breaking regional law, and will ensure that all actions of the government are constitutional.
    III. Justices of the supreme court will be appointed by the president and approved by the congress. They shall serve until they resign or until they are removed by the congress for inactivity or are impeached for wrong-doings.
    IV. Recognizing that a Judicial isn't likely to be needed in the early period of the region, the supreme court may not exist until September 1, 2010.
    V. The Supreme Court shall maintain a document called the Standing Orders which shall outline the detailed procedures of the court, which shall be approved and can be amended by majority vote of the court.

    The Military
    I. The military shall be divided into the Guardsmen and the calvery, and shall be managed by the Executive Branch.
    II. The guardsman shall maintain regional security as well as security of any allied regions, and shall also ensure that the rightful nation is delegate.
    III. The Cavalry shall tasked with protecting the interests of the natives of other regions around the world, and fighting imperialist regions.

    Citizenship
    A citizen shall be defined as any player whom has a nation in the region and a forum account active within the last month.

    Amendments
    I. This document may be amended by a three fourths vote of congress.

    Tried to keep as much out as I thought was safe, I'd prefer most of it be left to Standing Orders for Leg and Jud branch and Executive Orders for the military/executive branch.

    Also I called the chief executive the President. I'm not particularly against Consul as RWA and Zan want though.
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    Re: Topid Draft

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Sat 31 Jul 2010 - 13:15

    The ratio should be reduced or we'll be stuck with a 3 person congress for a long while. Or at least add a clause that congress can adjust the ratio as need be. And there needs to be something in there requiring the supreme court to officially review any bill, exec order, standing order ect to assure it is contitutional. Otherwise the whole branch will go to waste. Trust me the supreme court of CC was rather useless at times because there was nothing requiring it to do its job.


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    Re: Topid Draft

    Post by Right Wing Politics on Sat 31 Jul 2010 - 13:26

    Aye the supreme courts approval should be required for any bill to become law.

    Otherwise I think this is a fairly solid constitution, personally though I would change the names of the positions to make them sound a little less U.S centric. Speaking as someone who doesn't live there I can see the region becoming seen as just for Americans, leaving the names more ambiguous might help.

    Personally I'd think consul was cool and a senate might be good. Roman themes are cool.
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    Re: Topid Draft

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Sat 31 Jul 2010 - 13:39

    Problem is that the overwhelming majority of people who are likely to come here are Americans. Look at CC. Theres been what, two, foreigners out of all the nations we had. And since America is pretty much the center of the world most people know what the congress/president is/means. Though it wouldn't hurt to put in whatever recruitment message we have that we accept all idealogies/ethnicities/nationalities/whatever.


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    Re: Topid Draft

    Post by Topid on Sat 31 Jul 2010 - 13:50

    Our recruitment message brags about us being a 'melting pot' with members from all over... (A stretch)

    Most of NS is American, but names don't matter much to me. I think Congress is fairly basic and universal, but Cabinet/President/Supreme Court might be too much Americanized names. Supreme Court might be the worst.

    Good idea on required review. We'll have to add that to the final version for sure!
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    Re: Topid Draft

    Post by Right Wing Politics on Sat 31 Jul 2010 - 14:05

    Aye but that may have been because of how US centric the CC was.

    I think a few subtle and cosmetic changes won't alienate any Americans but might stop some other nationalities from being put off.
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    Re: Topid Draft

    Post by Topid on Sat 31 Jul 2010 - 14:46

    So if...
    Executive= Consul
    Legislative= Senate/Congress (Either are fine)
    Judicial = ____

    And actually, renaming the Cavalry to the Legion might be a 'cooler' option.
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    Re: Topid Draft

    Post by Right Wing Politics on Sat 31 Jul 2010 - 14:53

    I like the idea of 'The Legion' sounds cool. Praetor for judge? I do like my Romans.
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    Re: Topid Draft

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Sat 31 Jul 2010 - 14:55

    President/Senate/Something else. Its not like America is the only country with a president and a senate.


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    Re: Topid Draft

    Post by RWA on Sat 31 Jul 2010 - 14:58

    How bout we all shut up till RWA finishes his draft?


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    Re: Topid Draft

    Post by Anti Neo Nazis on Sat 31 Jul 2010 - 15:13

    How bout we discuss the only draft thats been presented to us then we can compare. Or how bout you get your ass in gear and finish yours because this whole process is moving way too slow.


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    Re: Topid Draft

    Post by Topid on Sat 31 Jul 2010 - 15:24

    All the names don't matter much to me, save The Legion, which I now thoroughly want. Razz
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    Re: Topid Draft

    Post by Right Wing Politics on Sat 31 Jul 2010 - 15:30

    Yeah we are discussing the draft that's actually here... it's pretty logical, we'll do the same to yours when it's up.
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    Re: Topid Draft

    Post by Zanannia on Sat 31 Jul 2010 - 17:14

    Consul actually originated in Athens, the world's first legislative democracy. Praetor sounds cool too.
    A lot of people can identify with the Romans and the Greeks, and I like the idea that the names model theirs.
    And I agree with all of Anti's original statements....

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